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TF2 - The Complete Beginners Trading Guide (The Economy, Metal, Profit + More!)

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*I Accidentally said that there are 10 scrap in a ref. This is WRONG. There are technically 9 scrap in a refined metal. That is my mistake.* This has been a video that has been requested to me for quite a while now and I thought I would finally make it. It took me quite a while to gather everything for this video, so apologies if the upload is a little late! This is a guide on how the tf2 economy works, including key value, trading refined metal for keys, and the different types of metal. It is also a guide on the different sites, including tf2outpost, backpack.tf & scrap.tf. I give a very rough guide on howt to look for profitable trade! Let me know if this helps you guys, and what more you would like to see in the future! http://backpack.tf/ - The main site to find prices http://www.tf2outpost.com/ - Outpost (The Main Trading Site) https://scrap.tf/ - Scrap (The Automated Trading Site) ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Connect with me! ● Twitter :https://twitter.com/pyrojoe_ ● Steam Group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PyroJoeYouTube
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PyroJoe (1 year ago)
PSA: THERE ARE 9 SCRAP IN A REF, NOT 10. I Accidentally said that there are 10 scrap in a ref. This is WRONG. There are technically 9 scrap in a refined metal. That is my mistake You don't need to tell me that there are 9 scrap in a refined. Thank you, and I hope I helped!
Neteus (2 days ago)
+Mihkel Turro ur gay
0.5 Sans (4 months ago)
there are actually 9 scrap in a ref... XD
Bread Package (5 months ago)
So 54 weapons for 1 h Crafted hat? Wow
Narax (1 year ago)
That is just your secret isn't it. When you are trading for hats and they only have scrap you tell them it is 10 so you get one more scrap then you should have... I knew it.
Brandon Snider (14 hours ago)
thanks for the video it cleared up a lot of questions
ThatGuy_ (3 days ago)
but what if an Unusual is 15.55 keys what is the 15.(55) key thing. is it half the key??
McScarfy (6 days ago)
When you find out that there's a 15 day trade hold on all your trades
Crouton Boi (14 days ago)
Damn, I already spent like £4 on like 32 vintage KGBs and scraped them and made like 3 ref when I could have spent £1.85 on 39 ref
Froze Killer (20 days ago)
Now, it's 40 refined for a key, thanks for nothing
Pb2kick (26 days ago)
My big brother said that Scrap.tf is a scam website ._.
tobiask13 cz (1 month ago)
Any shortcuts?
frost night (1 month ago)
well if someone buy something from the tf2 store is just to get premium
Salty Avocado (1 month ago)
yo i need help when i try to trade them my reifind metal it deosnt show in my enventroy
The Vaultboyengland (1 month ago)
This helped so much thanks
Natan titelbaum (1 month ago)
outpost doesnt exist anymore
XavAge Animations (1 month ago)
3:58 “so cheaper” Good very engrish there joe
Super Mega (1 month ago)
Goodbye tf2 outpost may you soldier requiem in peace.
Flamzy (1 month ago)
Golden rule of trading: Always try to make a profit
StangeEkills (1 month ago)
ya yeet am i right
GAMING WITH DEXTER (2 months ago)
Just asking, how many keys should I buy and where should I get them from?
Wyatt Chew (2 months ago)
Can you buy keys from the in game store and still trade with them
Oskar frešo (2 months ago)
Very good video.
Jude Waide (2 months ago)
Very helpful video! Previously I had been trying to sell hats for profit to people on trade servers who won't buy an item for a scrap more than backpack.tf price!
bloxniro gaming (2 months ago)
I just want to earn some keys
SnowyTheBread (2 months ago)
The only thing you should buy from the store is keys
SnowyTheBread (2 months ago)
+Wyatt Chew Yes but you have to wait a week, unless you use Marketplace.tf
Wyatt Chew (2 months ago)
Can you use them to trade if they are bought
Knight Templar (2 months ago)
I see trading as not worth it because i got scammed once, and i am keeping as far from trading as possible. Try to change my mind why should i trade.
Knight Templar (2 months ago)
But is the risk of getting scammed and losing everything you worked so hard for really worth it?
Adam Žák (2 months ago)
Because you want those cool hats, skins and others!!! Theyre too expensive to buy for money...
Captain Capsize (3 months ago)
So sad how lazy people just spam "buying quicksells" trades while I"m here working my ass off to finally find good deals myself
CivicJaguar 22 (3 months ago)
How much ref would it take to make the value into a pure?
Franco Caballero (3 months ago)
Everytime i see the backpack.tf logo i se the TF like tumbler and facebook
Craig Tucker (3 months ago)
Thank you so much, Ive been at it for a week and my backpack is already worth 28 ref! Thanks!
Mint64 (3 months ago)
How do you actually get the different kinds of metal? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I’m pretty new to TF2 :)
Iceburger (3 months ago)
This is a very good guide, thanks for the help
Ashtonian (3 months ago)
someone tried to trade me 45 ref for a normal winger `
Filbert Tuxen (3 months ago)
i feel liek the crafting system scammed me too hard ))):
ze medic main (3 months ago)
but how do i get scrap?
basti is pootis everyday (4 months ago)
hey pyrojoe im a beginner at trading how do i see my stuff because i cant see my refined and my srap
Angel Perez (4 months ago)
Finally I found one
Gen Trooper (4 months ago)
how do i get tradable refined
cool sword99 (4 months ago)
Does this mean that hats on the .tf website are $0.10 and hats on the steam market are $4????
Bread Milk (4 months ago)
3:24 *WHOOPS*
Ink Tim (4 months ago)
I've watched alot of trade guides but still dont understand SHIIIIIT.... HELP MEH
Just a guy Bob (4 months ago)
On these websites do u transfer the hats and guns extra to your inventory in tf2
TAKIMLISIM (4 months ago)
damn back in the day the key was 4 ref... now its 33.5
Defecticon (1 month ago)
Dude it's 40 now
Squiggles (5 months ago)
This was really helpful thanks
Marco Redulla (5 months ago)
I only use scrap.tf for buying my items and tf2mart for selling. That way I profit due to Scrap.tf not increasing price when selling stranges with strange parts
Pixel Pug (5 months ago)
What’s the difference between pure and not pure? I’m so confused, pls help
sp00kis (5 months ago)
but how many is 1.55 ref ?
Sebastian Canas (5 months ago)
im still confusion
Happiguy (5 months ago)
I would only buy at steam to get premium
a real cake (6 months ago)
hey joe i only got some thing from the mann market to get premium so is that ok.
Fake Age (6 months ago)
It’s acutally 9 scrap in a refined because 3 scrap = reclaimed 3 reclaimed = Refined QUICK METH
Fake Age (6 months ago)
When you try to scrap bank and someone goes (dude you can get an weapon for 0.5 on scrap.tf lol) -fucking bots trading website makes it so hard to make profit these days.
Video Watcher (6 months ago)
My refined metal can't be treaded
EchoZ (6 months ago)
Whats ur POV and how does ur game look so good
Lucky Snip (6 months ago)
Can you help me,when I trade it does not work it won’t let me put anything in!
Under Cover (6 months ago)
Weird how the key price has gotten back to the price here
Spysaur (6 months ago)
Now too :D
Kenny mascott (6 months ago)
OH MY GOD, it all makes since now....first of all thank you secondly I'VE BEEN PLAYING FAR TO LONG TO NOT KNOW THIS SHIT.
Daniel DaMan (7 months ago)
9 scraps in one ref not 10
Tom Moozack (7 months ago)
i made a 3.33 ref profit on my first craft :D
ruel bay (7 months ago)
shit , i wasted alot of money
The White Wolf Gaming (7 months ago)
Thanks I was wondering what people meant be keys and ref when talking about trading. You really helped clear that up.
Passive (7 months ago)
You said something about "selling to a quick seller" what do you mean by this? and how is it done?
Cheez (7 months ago)
You need to be P2P to trade?
TuxedoShark (8 months ago)
I have a question. I decided to check out backpack.tf after watching your video and the first thing I did was check out my backpack to see what my stuff was worth, curiosity and all, and I found a few items that are registered there that I can't find in my backpack, what are your thoughts?
LegendOf RovioGames (8 months ago)
Obvioustly player only trade a player that has fucking unusual and australium
DaBombLlama (8 months ago)
The moment he said "there is 10 scrap in a ref"
Heavy Pootis (9 months ago)
Backpack.tf is no scam trust me.
InfiniteNumbaEight (9 months ago)
Keys are expensive nowadays..
James You already know (9 months ago)
Trix (9 months ago)
Is selling a weapon for 1 scrap profitable? I kinda want to just trade my weapons up to Merc's Muffler and Deus Specs.
Trix No, not really as it takes a long time and is tedious. I would recommend hat banking to start, as it's like scrap banking, except more easier and faster. You can also do steam trading cards (buy low, sell high), although I've never tried that :)
InfiniteEpìdemic (9 months ago)
Im a new trader, I have been P2P for a year and have lots of hats that I had unboxed but no unusual. I recently figured out the Mobile Accelerator. But still have the trade hold for 1 more week. I sold that demoman drunk taunt for several ref today, the guy didn’t care about the trade hold.
Kevin Patai (9 months ago)
Soo how do i start ?? When i want to hatbanking i should buy lower and sell higher ??
Kevin Patai yes
PabloC4 (9 months ago)
How i buy scrap with my steam money? like buyng an item and them selling for scrap, i don't have enought for a key but almos that.
You can't buy any crafting items on the market, but you can buy on the steam market or marketplace.tf, say something that has a value of a bit less than a key(like a weapon or cosmetic or tool) and then sell that on backpack.tf
You can sell items for real money on marketplace.tf
InfiniteEpìdemic (9 months ago)
Im a p2p, Have hats and taunts and lots of weps, Sad thing is nobody wants to trade me cuz of this “Trade Hold”
Kit Kats (1 month ago)
Glad I found this comment I've had a 15 day trade hold for a while now, thanks!
Hungry Hungarian (8 months ago)
InfiniteEpìdemic :)
InfiniteEpìdemic (8 months ago)
TankCsapda FAN just got ride of it, thanks
Hungry Hungarian (8 months ago)
InfiniteEpìdemic Install steam app to your phone the you wont have trade hold
Nikos Tzifakis (9 months ago)
thanks for the advice
I_Inferno (10 months ago)
Very helpful tnx joe
Trevor Brock (10 months ago)
Guys I sold the Kaz kick,jackhammer taunt,rancho relaxo,and one reclaimed and all the weapons for spy and engi for 2 csgo keys,or 5 bucks.was that a fair trade?
Trevor Brock no, I would say 5 keys for more would be the actual worth
Joseph Stalin (10 months ago)
Im watching this video since i want to start playing tf2
Filbert Tuxen (10 months ago)
Boss Man (10 months ago)
my inventory cannot be displayed on backpack.tf :(
Boss Man (9 months ago)
yup done that lol
Boss Man did you make sure your steam inventory is set to public, and not friends only or private? If it is not public, it can't display your inventory.
Son of Tiamat (9 months ago)
I know, I'm having this problem as well. It's not at all user friendly and just doesn't make sense.
Papa Peaceful (10 months ago)
Scrap.tf never lets me trade shit
Gilles Dhondt (11 months ago)
Hi I want to trade my cs Knife price:102 for australium scattergun and scout unusaul 'my steam name' HIFO2.0 weer can I trade it
That Guy You Saw in Space (11 months ago)
I wish tf2 wasn't so complicated
ar8artemiy da player (11 months ago)
Omfg I just realized I could buy a medic pack for about 3$ (149 RUB) but then found out it isn't even worth it
proud Kekistani (1 year ago)
@PyroJoe this is one of the best trading guides I have seen yet. keep up the goo work man
Hank Lee (1 year ago)
Blurry Eyes (1 year ago)
Thank you
Impulse (1 year ago)
i need help how come i cant make tradable refined metal
waylon sherman (11 months ago)
Tristan Donato you used an untradable weapon in it.
TheDarkEagle (1 year ago)
Is it possible to make profit by starting with 1 scrap metal?
TheDarkEagle you can scrap bank, or cheaply buy trading cards and selling them for more
Arceus 101 (1 year ago)
My steam name is arkeus1013 (gewp) and recently got scammed out of my first unusual after having it for 3 weeks I just want to let everyone know about the opskins scam look it up I don't want this happening to anyone else
Arceus 101 if you know the user that scammed you, you can report them on steamrep or on steam as a scammer
AdZi (1 year ago)
This helps a lot but there is litterly no good trade servers out there, at least not in Europe :(
Bobby Shawarma (1 year ago)
On scrap.tf, the CS:GO skin "Emerald Pinstripe" is worth 30 ref.
piplup229 (1 year ago)
Thanks for the guide! I want to eventually trade up for an unusual, hopefully this will help!
Yeppe (1 year ago)
I dont get it Maybe im just stupid here but listen, the frickin sweet ninja hood, 6-7 euro right? and its not even 1 key, and 1 key is 2 euros.. shouldnt it be a little over 3 keys then? im very confused so please help :P
Patrik Kumbera (1 year ago)
hey did me got profit?:D Red tape recorder strange for 2 refs?
Nikola Radovanovic (4 months ago)
Patrik Kumbera It's worth it, RTR is shit.
Pendragonz (1 year ago)
A trading guide I made: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1S1lNx0xAGjgIf4_EDtoneMimMIde2GJMUIg9vQp1WAU/edit?usp=sharing ! Please like so people can see!
Renzil Mixes (1 year ago)
Crafty Gaming Thanks!
CriticalGastly (1 year ago)
How do I download steam guard
This has helped me, SO MUCH! I'm trading up to an unusual worth 19 keys So far I have 4 keys.....
Nick Magee (1 year ago)
What did you do to get your first key?
Scribble (1 year ago)
Pyro ? What is your FOV ?
Joseph Spekenlarre (1 year ago)
Please help me ! I cant use trade servers ( for technical problemes ) but i want to trade ! How can i do it ??
necromeme (1 year ago)
Wow! Now I can get stuff without paying any money lol.
The Dark Elk (1 year ago)

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