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TF2 - The Complete Beginners Trading Guide (The Economy, Metal, Profit + More!)

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*I Accidentally said that there are 10 scrap in a ref. This is WRONG. There are technically 9 scrap in a refined metal. That is my mistake.* This has been a video that has been requested to me for quite a while now and I thought I would finally make it. It took me quite a while to gather everything for this video, so apologies if the upload is a little late! This is a guide on how the tf2 economy works, including key value, trading refined metal for keys, and the different types of metal. It is also a guide on the different sites, including tf2outpost, backpack.tf & scrap.tf. I give a very rough guide on howt to look for profitable trade! Let me know if this helps you guys, and what more you would like to see in the future! http://backpack.tf/ - The main site to find prices http://www.tf2outpost.com/ - Outpost (The Main Trading Site) https://scrap.tf/ - Scrap (The Automated Trading Site) ▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬▬ Connect with me! ● Twitter :https://twitter.com/pyrojoe_ ● Steam Group: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PyroJoeYouTube
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PyroJoe (2 years ago)
PSA: THERE ARE 9 SCRAP IN A REF, NOT 10. I Accidentally said that there are 10 scrap in a ref. This is WRONG. There are technically 9 scrap in a refined metal. That is my mistake You don't need to tell me that there are 9 scrap in a refined. Thank you, and I hope I helped!
demowolf (2 months ago)
PyroJoe you said the same thing 3 times
Neteus (4 months ago)
+Mihkel Turro ur gay
0.5 Sans (8 months ago)
there are actually 9 scrap in a ref... XD
Bread Package (9 months ago)
So 54 weapons for 1 h Crafted hat? Wow
U forgot about the mvm ticke
Alex Yearsich (12 days ago)
Heck some of the taunts are really expensive on the market/backpack.tf
Tristen Womack (17 days ago)
The websites are more buying than trading because you can't do anything with scr, rec, ref and keys but trading in *the real world* trading would be i give you peanuts and you give me chocolate
Darius Adrian (22 days ago)
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197985122344/tradeoffers/ give my 1 cosmetic pls
josefi krakowski (1 month ago)
I didnt cnow that tf2 had a economy
David Fulop (1 month ago)
2:43 aki magyar az tudja hogy mit jelent a kém neve xD (töltöttkolbász)
南瓜頭 (1 month ago)
I am f2p,can I trade in scrap TF?
The green Slime Gaming (1 month ago)
Your voice is so calm and nice it makes me sleepy nice vids btw 😴
Arthur Martins (1 month ago)
We need an updated version of this video, even because tf2 outpost has been shut down
Enderborg (2 months ago)
TF2outpost got shutdown
Yusuf Çetinkaya (2 months ago)
Can you help me pls
pandibular (2 months ago)
RIP tf2 outpost. It had a good run.
CgamerC (2 months ago)
can someone help me? when im selling my item on backpack.tf and put the offers to trade offers only there is just an add friend button when i list it!
Net Stalker (2 months ago)
There's like "Allow Negotiation", change it to "Trade offers only", then steam trading link
Eduard Crisan (2 months ago)
Rip refined metal 0.03 € = 1 crate on community market
The XFalzar (2 months ago)
It helped
The Golden Explorer (2 months ago)
Oh... in those websites they sell keys and stuff for about a dollar? Sh__ I already spent my money on the tf2 shop...
Clive The Dodo (3 months ago)
This is so complicated, I love trading but Jesus I’m just going to unlock stuff as I go and buy extra stuff from the steam mart lol
Xeno Letsplaye a iné (3 months ago)
Dear reader. Tf2 outpost was closed down so dont go find it.
RIP tf2outpost
ThisGuyShader (3 months ago)
this helps thx m8
Notorious_Reaper (3 months ago)
I remember when I first started trading, I didn't know that crates were basically worthless, and I tried to offer him a Violet Vermin case for an Unusual
Oxpolot (3 months ago)
thanks, i'm still a noob at the game but i already have two spare short circuits which i now see i can use to trade for a l'etranger or make some scrap and save for better trades
Zingymeatball88 (2 months ago)
I used scrap.tf to get a bunch of my items when I started playing in 2016. Got most of my weapons (no reskins) easily that way since a weapon is worth 0.5 scrap so you could get 2 for the price of 1 scrap
Brandon Snider (3 months ago)
thanks for the video it cleared up a lot of questions
xd ThatGuy_ (4 months ago)
but what if an Unusual is 15.55 keys what is the 15.(55) key thing. is it half the key??
b man (1 month ago)
That would be 15 keys and 0.55 keys worth of refined metal
McScarfy (4 months ago)
When you find out that there's a 15 day trade hold on all your trades
Crouton Boi (4 months ago)
Damn, I already spent like £4 on like 32 vintage KGBs and scraped them and made like 3 ref when I could have spent £1.85 on 39 ref
Froze Killer (4 months ago)
Now, it's 40 refined for a key, thanks for nothing
Pb2kick (4 months ago)
My big brother said that Scrap.tf is a scam website ._.
Zingymeatball88 (2 months ago)
Nope. Scrap.tf is completely legitimate I got most of my weapons when I first started playing with scrap.tf
tobiask13 cz (5 months ago)
Any shortcuts?
frost night (5 months ago)
well if someone buy something from the tf2 store is just to get premium
Salty Avocado (5 months ago)
yo i need help when i try to trade them my reifind metal it deosnt show in my enventroy
The Vaultboyengland (5 months ago)
This helped so much thanks
Natan titelbaum (5 months ago)
outpost doesnt exist anymore
XavAge Animations (5 months ago)
3:58 “so cheaper” Good very engrish there joe
Super Mega (5 months ago)
Goodbye tf2 outpost may you soldier requiem in peace.
Flamzy (5 months ago)
Golden rule of trading: Always try to make a profit
StangeEkills (5 months ago)
ya yeet am i right
GAMING WITH DEXTER (6 months ago)
Just asking, how many keys should I buy and where should I get them from?
Wyatt Chew (6 months ago)
Can you buy keys from the in game store and still trade with them
Oskar frešo (6 months ago)
Very good video.
Jude Waide (6 months ago)
Very helpful video! Previously I had been trying to sell hats for profit to people on trade servers who won't buy an item for a scrap more than backpack.tf price!
bloxniro gaming (6 months ago)
I just want to earn some keys
SnowyTheBread (6 months ago)
The only thing you should buy from the store is keys
SnowyTheBread (6 months ago)
+Wyatt Chew Yes but you have to wait a week, unless you use Marketplace.tf
Wyatt Chew (6 months ago)
Can you use them to trade if they are bought
[Akurami ] (6 months ago)
I see trading as not worth it because i got scammed once, and i am keeping as far from trading as possible. Try to change my mind why should i trade.
[Akurami ] (6 months ago)
But is the risk of getting scammed and losing everything you worked so hard for really worth it?
Admexir (6 months ago)
Because you want those cool hats, skins and others!!! Theyre too expensive to buy for money...
Captain Capsize (6 months ago)
So sad how lazy people just spam "buying quicksells" trades while I"m here working my ass off to finally find good deals myself
CivicJaguar 22 (7 months ago)
How much ref would it take to make the value into a pure?
Franco Caballero (7 months ago)
Everytime i see the backpack.tf logo i se the TF like tumbler and facebook
Craig Tucker (7 months ago)
Thank you so much, Ive been at it for a week and my backpack is already worth 28 ref! Thanks!
Mint64 (7 months ago)
How do you actually get the different kinds of metal? Sorry if this is a dumb question, I’m pretty new to TF2 :)
Iceburger (7 months ago)
This is a very good guide, thanks for the help
Ashtonian (7 months ago)
someone tried to trade me 45 ref for a normal winger `
Filbert Tuxen (7 months ago)
i feel liek the crafting system scammed me too hard ))):
Tyler The Creator (7 months ago)
but how do i get scrap?
Angel Perez (8 months ago)
Finally I found one
Gen Trooper (8 months ago)
how do i get tradable refined
X_Mobile_Tfue_X (8 months ago)
Does this mean that hats on the .tf website are $0.10 and hats on the steam market are $4????
Bread Milk (8 months ago)
3:24 *WHOOPS*
Ink Tim (8 months ago)
I've watched alot of trade guides but still dont understand SHIIIIIT.... HELP MEH
machine gunn (8 months ago)
On these websites do u transfer the hats and guns extra to your inventory in tf2
TAKIMLISIM (8 months ago)
damn back in the day the key was 4 ref... now its 33.5
Waschbär:3 (3 months ago)
+Defecticon 44-45 now...
Defecticon (5 months ago)
Dude it's 40 now
Squiggles (9 months ago)
This was really helpful thanks
Marco Redulla (9 months ago)
I only use scrap.tf for buying my items and tf2mart for selling. That way I profit due to Scrap.tf not increasing price when selling stranges with strange parts
Pixel Pug (9 months ago)
What’s the difference between pure and not pure? I’m so confused, pls help
sp00kis (9 months ago)
but how many is 1.55 ref ?
Sebastian Canas (9 months ago)
im still confusion
HappiisMatt (9 months ago)
I would only buy at steam to get premium
a real cake (10 months ago)
hey joe i only got some thing from the mann market to get premium so is that ok.
Fake Age (10 months ago)
It’s acutally 9 scrap in a refined because 3 scrap = reclaimed 3 reclaimed = Refined QUICK METH
Fake Age (10 months ago)
When you try to scrap bank and someone goes (dude you can get an weapon for 0.5 on scrap.tf lol) -fucking bots trading website makes it so hard to make profit these days.
Video Watcher (10 months ago)
My refined metal can't be treaded
EchoZ (10 months ago)
Whats ur POV and how does ur game look so good
Lucky Snip (10 months ago)
Can you help me,when I trade it does not work it won’t let me put anything in!
Under Cover (10 months ago)
Weird how the key price has gotten back to the price here
Spysaur (10 months ago)
Now too :D
Kenny mascott (10 months ago)
OH MY GOD, it all makes since now....first of all thank you secondly I'VE BEEN PLAYING FAR TO LONG TO NOT KNOW THIS SHIT.
Daniels Krabis (10 months ago)
9 scraps in one ref not 10
Tom Moozack (10 months ago)
i made a 3.33 ref profit on my first craft :D
The White Wolf Gaming (11 months ago)
Thanks I was wondering what people meant be keys and ref when talking about trading. You really helped clear that up.
Passive (11 months ago)
You said something about "selling to a quick seller" what do you mean by this? and how is it done?
Cheez (11 months ago)
You need to be P2P to trade?
TuxedoShark (1 year ago)
I have a question. I decided to check out backpack.tf after watching your video and the first thing I did was check out my backpack to see what my stuff was worth, curiosity and all, and I found a few items that are registered there that I can't find in my backpack, what are your thoughts?
LegendOf RovioGames (1 year ago)
Obvioustly player only trade a player that has fucking unusual and australium
LITTLEGNOMER (1 year ago)
The moment he said "there is 10 scrap in a ref"
Heavy Pootis (1 year ago)
Backpack.tf is no scam trust me.
SteB (1 year ago)
Keys are expensive nowadays..
bukets TM (1 year ago)
Is selling a weapon for 1 scrap profitable? I kinda want to just trade my weapons up to Merc's Muffler and Deus Specs.
ุ ุ ุ ุ (1 year ago)
Trix No, not really as it takes a long time and is tedious. I would recommend hat banking to start, as it's like scrap banking, except more easier and faster. You can also do steam trading cards (buy low, sell high), although I've never tried that :)
Im a new trader, I have been P2P for a year and have lots of hats that I had unboxed but no unusual. I recently figured out the Mobile Accelerator. But still have the trade hold for 1 more week. I sold that demoman drunk taunt for several ref today, the guy didn’t care about the trade hold.
Kevin Patai (1 year ago)
Soo how do i start ?? When i want to hatbanking i should buy lower and sell higher ??
ุ ุ ุ ุ (1 year ago)
Kevin Patai yes
PabloC4 (1 year ago)
How i buy scrap with my steam money? like buyng an item and them selling for scrap, i don't have enought for a key but almos that.
ุ ุ ุ ุ (1 year ago)
You can't buy any crafting items on the market, but you can buy on the steam market or marketplace.tf, say something that has a value of a bit less than a key(like a weapon or cosmetic or tool) and then sell that on backpack.tf
ุ ุ ุ ุ (1 year ago)
You can sell items for real money on marketplace.tf
Im a p2p, Have hats and taunts and lots of weps, Sad thing is nobody wants to trade me cuz of this “Trade Hold”
Hungry Hungarian (1 year ago)
InfiniteEpìdemic :)
TankCsapda FAN just got ride of it, thanks
Hungry Hungarian (1 year ago)
InfiniteEpìdemic Install steam app to your phone the you wont have trade hold
Nikos Tzifakis (1 year ago)
thanks for the advice
I_Inferno (1 year ago)
Very helpful tnx joe
Trevor Brock (1 year ago)
Guys I sold the Kaz kick,jackhammer taunt,rancho relaxo,and one reclaimed and all the weapons for spy and engi for 2 csgo keys,or 5 bucks.was that a fair trade?
ุ ุ ุ ุ (1 year ago)
Trevor Brock no, I would say 5 keys for more would be the actual worth
Joseph Stalin (1 year ago)
Im watching this video since i want to start playing tf2
Filbert Tuxen (1 year ago)
Brandon Crawford (1 year ago)
my inventory cannot be displayed on backpack.tf :(
Brandon Crawford (1 year ago)
yup done that lol
ุ ุ ุ ุ (1 year ago)
Boss Man did you make sure your steam inventory is set to public, and not friends only or private? If it is not public, it can't display your inventory.
Son of Tiamat (1 year ago)
I know, I'm having this problem as well. It's not at all user friendly and just doesn't make sense.
Papa Peaceful (1 year ago)
Scrap.tf never lets me trade shit
Gilles D'hondt (1 year ago)
Hi I want to trade my cs Knife price:102 for australium scattergun and scout unusaul 'my steam name' HIFO2.0 weer can I trade it
I wish tf2 wasn't so complicated

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