I've had the Performance MX Laser, just like the one you mentioned. Maybe 3-4 years?
The scroll wheel notches are feeling weak (It's not in smooth mode)
And the left click is double clicking when only single pressed, and sometimes drops (Lets go) when holding/dragging icons.
One would expect that, in such a long video, you'd go into important details about the mouse.
I just got the MX Master 2S to replace my now half-dead Performance, but the lack of horizontal navigation (left/right push) from the vertical scroll button is a total deal-breaker. The noise made by the main buttons when clicked is also significantly louder than the Performance MX. Finally, you can kind of of learn how to live with the horrible position of the forward/back buttons, but I'd rather have them in the original position and ditch the horizontal scroll.
It seems like the Anywhere 2S would be the right choice for me (despite de much smaller size), but then they've decide to make the clickable scroll a non-button (yet another very important detail not mentioned in your video).
Thanks for sharing. A great review.
For the first year after purchase my MX Master tracked well on paper which was brilliant because this allowed me to use a clipboard and make notes on the paper. Then the wheel brake packed up, no big deal. Then the tracking on paper deteriorated, OK back to the mouse pad. Then mouse lag crept in and I started looking for another brand as I judged Logitech quality standards to have dropped IMHO.
Really dislike this mouse because of the clumsy thumb wheel. There is no sensitivity control even in the latest software. When you try to use the thumb wheel you will have to push your palm hard onto the mouse to stop it skating across your desk.....and then your hand slips off. If you are a musician and need to scroll and resize the screen constantly this mouse just doesn't cut it. I went back to my crappy mighty mouse. I also think mouse feels cheap and too light. I watched all the great reviews and bought it. Sucked in by the 4k and great camera work. Oh well another mouse thrown in the draw!
My Performance MX just died, based on you review I bought a MX Master 2S.
As usual, when Logitech changes to a new generation of hardware it's always with limitations.
- Battery are not changeable anymore (the one fitted is only 500Mah - you can easily get 1.000 or even more these days which would give you the advertised 40 days of running time).
- Not able to figure out if they have actually removed the pointer acceleration from their new software - bummer
- How come that, now that Logitech are introducing noiseless mouses, that the MX Master is horrible loud - scroll wheel would not make it in an office environment, and buttons etc. are actually the same as on the Performance MX - not softer etc as you claim.
You were right when claiming that it was less heavier and smoother to move around on the table. Let's hope the skaters remains smooth and does not pick up dirt as easy as the Performance MX
Good news - Logitech just dumped the price with more than 20%
Nice review, but you get a dislike for all the ads. I hit dislike for anyone who plasters their videos with ads. It's getting worse and worse on YouTube. Not only do you have YouTube's own ads, but 2 of your own as part of the video! That is taking the p*ss. What's wrong with everyone giving likes and positive comments? This greediness will never change all the while you put up with it! This is YOUTUBE, it is not American TV where they've always had a crazy number of ads. The whole world doesn't want to put up with this in every video! If you cannot make enough money to live on without so many ads, FIND A JOB and make videos for PLEASURE and to share experiences or help others - That's what YouTube used to be all about, but now it's just a sad sad place for dumping non-stop ads everywhere possible. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Can someone explain to me why they don't offer this mouse with a decent sensor and the same low latency wireless technology they use in their gaming range? When I am editing images/videos or doing 3d modeling i find low response times and an accurate sensor to be just as important as when I am gaming, probably more so. To me even browsing the Internet and working on text documents felt somewhat awkward with this mouse and there's no way I would use it for the tasks mentioned earlier. The high weight doesn't really help either but it wouldn't be a deal breaker in it of itself, the terrible sensor and response times however are. I find this a real shame because I pretty much loved everything else about it, though a few more programmable buttons would be nice for productivity.
I'd been using a Performance MX for nigh on 8 years (!) and had to look for a replacement recently on account of the poor old thing basically falling apart physically. And that's the only fault I've had with it.
Been looking (and drooling) at the MX Master for some time now, but eventually had to settle on a G502 due to budget limitations. That said, I am not disappointed.
Still... some day, MX Master, some day...
Using this mouse for 2 years now (11 hours a day) You don't retract your thumb to press those side mouse buttons. There is muscles on the side of your finger that work flawlessly after 3 days. Best mouse I've ever had.
I've gotten two Performances, after I lost my first. It works amazing for me, as my fingers are pretty long and my hand large. Only thing is, I can't customize the settings, and the battery life is a little weak now. Still great for editing tho.
Only 2 good mice were ever made, MX Revolution and MX Master.
However MX Master back and forward buttons is to close to use for gaming until you have practiced enough hitting the right one in stressed situations.
And it is more than enough in FPS games for me.
I own 2 performance mx they are the best mouses i had ever had so far :) also own one mx anywhere and one mx anywhere 2 (due to be able to swap between 3 pcs with the unifying receiver also have a M185 black and red and finally also have an old M305 but because i recently got a predator helios 300 my next upgrade will be either to a G903 with the powerplay charging pad or the G Pro (hero sensor 16000 dpi) im still undecided on which because the G pro doesn't support powerplay
I am a Performance MX user (just like yours first which you mention) and also I'm power user with three PCs, five monitors, lots of CAD work, spreadsheets in weak MS Win10 environment and additional software like Autohotkey, X-MouseButtonControl, ShareMouse (simmilar to flow, but from 3rd party and much better)...
This new mouse doesn't have wheel tilt, which IMO is the worst. Performance line doesn't expose all button functions to Operating System APIs, so only Logitech software is able to handle them... after 5 years of using PerformanceMX it's going to die, so I'm looking whats new and rather thinking of buying same I have - PerformanceMX.
My biggest gripes with Flow, is:
a.) Doesn't work on Linux, and Logitech has completely ignored that platform. Their forum is filled with people asking for support for Flow on Linux, but they continue to turn their heads away or delete the threads. Very hostile position on supporting Linux. Synergy and similar tools are not a viable alternative here.
b.) Flow doesn't work if your machine auto-locks to a screensaver or lock screen. The sensitive screen edges are ignored once your machine, either machine, is at a lock screen prompting for a login credential. In a business environment, this can happen hundreds of times per-day, and it's annoying to try to figure out which machine has 'control' of the mouse, only to find out that neither do, because one machine has locked when it had mouse focus and the other machine can't get the mouse back without unlocking the first machine.
c.) You can't suspend a computer with the mouse while using Flow, and then use the mouse on another computer. Once you suspend with the Flow-enabled mouse, moving the mouse to the screen edge to allow the non-suspended computer to control it, wakes the first system out of suspend (and in most cases, to the lock screen, see b.) above) You have to use the 1/2/3 buttons on the bottom to switch AWAY from the first computer, and then suspend using another method (trackpad on a Mac for example) on that first computer, to continue using the mouse on the second computer.
d.) There's no way to configure the delay at the screen edge nor the width of that field, so it's not so sensitive at the screen edge. I can't make that region wait 2-3 seconds, nor can I make it 5mm instead of 25mm wide.
e.) Why would Flow require sending data through the public Internet (encrypted or not) and then back down to the destination machine receiving Flow data? This immediately breaks on any machine behind a hotel WiFi, public WiFi or any business computer using a VPN or firewall/proxy setup. As a security professional, that makes me very nervous and I wonder what else is in that data.
It's a neat idea, and a great concept, but it hasn't quite matured to a level of execution that would work in a professional setting and certainly not for power users of these professional-level mouses.
The poor positioning of the forward/backwards buttons is a bigger problem than you make it seem. For anyone who uses these buttons regularly, I would think very carefully before choosing this mouse. Personally, I passed for that precise reason.
have you by any chance found that flow didn't set up properly? Can't seem to get it to work and tried so much. Their website is not helpful at all with this. I've got everything set up the way it should. So weird.
It's hard to trust all the tech channel reviews (specially the big channels), since all of them get sent free stuff, or get sponsored by these products. And as a result they give good reviews for the product, even if the item is pure donkey crap. If they badmouth products, they wont get free stuff and sponsorships.
g500 used to be the master mouse for me before it died, everything else logitech is producing these days is not for me, even though I own g402 and mx master. The master in particular was not made for actual work, more like browsing or management. As a 3d artist I can't use it effectively. I like to work fast and I like hotkeys.The mouse is heavy, it slows me down. I like to move my middle button to one of the side buttons for more convenience in maya, but these buttons are barely useful. The scrolling wheel is too hard to press too. The mouse is hard to lift with the thumb and pinky fingers, it's slipping out unless I hold it real strong, which is tiresome and distracting from the work. I can't recommend it.
I love how it looks though.
I have three performance MX, and use them for work and gaming. My first one is well over, wow I think 6 years old. It has finally had a failure in the primary button. So, sadly, it was modded with 3MDiNoc carbon fiber and I'm sure that has voided any warranty. But, I can tell you I certainly got my moneys worth of use out of that mouse. I have my second performance MX which was mainly my travel mouse now being used for my desktop. As a replacement for my desktop work/gaming rig I'm looking at an MX Master, and actually like the "stone" color one. The 2s has hit the market and it's gaining ground so the MX Master is dropping in price. However brick and mortar stores are still keeping the 99$ price tag so I'll probably order online.
One thing I hate about my MX Master 2S is the fact that the mouse has already gotten glossy after 6 months use. They decided to use ABS plastic instead of PBT which takes a lot longer to shine. Another issue I have on mine is the fact that I can't set any custom macro's on the buttons, you are stuck with using only the small amount of actions they allow you to work with.
I have the original which cost me a fortune in Australia. Unfortunately the battery life is not as advertised but worst of all the thumb gesture button broke. It gets to the point where it is permanently pressed even though I never use the thumb gesture button. That means it becomes un-useable as things go haywire. I hope they have fixed that as it is $150 down the drain after less than 2 years. I had a logitech travel mouse which cost me 1/3 this price and lasted for 7 years. So how is it a mouse that costs 3 times much last 1/3 the time, effectively making it about 10 times the price.
Unfortunately I love the buttons (Except thumb gesture) especially the extra side scroll wheel. There is a video saying how to fix the problem but it mean damaging your mouse. I am sure they are aware of the problem I just don't want fork out another $150 for something that only lasts less than 2 years. If the travel version had the side scroll wheel I would not hesitate to get it.
I wish they still made my old mouse where the batteries lasted forever and it never missed a beat in over 7 years.
I used to rock an MX Master until it broke. As I mostly game on my PC I got the G703 and let me tell you, I'm seriously considering selling it to get the MX Master 2S. I miss being able to game for weeks without even thinking of charging it. I miss how good and comfortable it felt on my hand. Miss you old friend.
Extremely frustrated and disapointed. Just bought it and after just a few days of using it (BT, PC and Mac) scrolling wheel randomly stops functioning. It may start working again after some random time but to force it to work again I need to turn it off and on again?! 100$ top pro mouse?! Why? Same problem anyone?
Still have an MX Performance, using it right now deciding on getting an MX Master S2.
The MX Performance has been a really nice mouse love the rechargeable battery
Great video, very informative...nice keyboard...love the "Light Show".
I just watched 5 video reviews on this mouse and they all start with "Hey wazzup guys" Really...really?
Is this guy the only articulate Millennial out there?
I have the 2s and I have MacOS 10.13.4 (the latest version). It is impossible to pair the mouse with the computer via Bluetooth. The mouse doesn’t even show up in the Bluetooth-settings. I have recently updated the Bluetooth from version 2.1 EDR to 4.0, but it didn’t help. Maybe the 2s needs more than 4.0, maybe 4.2? I can use it via USB-connector, but I would like to use with Bluetooth. I have also tried to pair a headset from Sony, with the same result, nothing happened. I guess the computer is too old, it’s from 2012 and the technique is from 2010. Mac sucks...
Having being an MX Master User, I can safely say I will never buy another one of these mice. For my hand size the thumb button is fatally flawed, becoming too easily depressed or, in my case, eventually the edges of the rubber get stuck and the button becomes pressed either indefinitely or at the slightest brushing against it. This then causes the mouse cursor to stop functioning (as the button is initiating a gesture) and for all number of things to start inexplicably happening depending on what OS/Software you are running and what gesture(s) they are recognizing. I eventually had to cut the entire rubber button out (leaving a nice big hole in my mouse now) so that I could actually use it again because no amount of trying to unstick or adjust the covering was working. At least I can say is that once I removed the button the mouse works well. But since it was not a cheap mouse there's no way I'm spending that kind of cash on one of these again. I'm very tempted to say stay away from Logitech, I've never really had a good mouse from them, regardless of price.
Quick question. Do you need to have the software installed in all computers for flow to work? I have a locked down work pc so I can't install anything there. Also... Does flow work between a tablet and pc? Thx
I do alot of editing at least 5days a week and 10 hrs a day....
I LOVE THIS MOUSE.... very smooth and very fast and accurate and the battery lasts about 3 weeks really im not kidding 3 weeks (not 70 days not for me)..very heavy use. no it does not work that well glass..and also flow works awsome and copy and paste works very fast on LARGE files..... and ya 100bucks is overpriced but so is everything
I have the performance MX and still use it. I have the new MX Master 2 and I think the mouse is the best I have ever used. I also use a Razer Mamba (Wireless). Of all of those the MX Master 2 is easily the best, but my original MX works very well still. It's pretty impressive to have a device work as well as it did when i bought it a few years ago.
Bought an Performance MX mouse in early 2009. A decade later it saw me through the end of high school, all of college, and 4 years of working 40-60+ hours a week.
I've worn most of the pads off the bottom but it still holds a charge on the original Eneloop battery to the point where I might charge it every other week or so.
Most of the chrome is now shiny or dull black with just a hint of chrome on the top.
Maybe one of these days I'll replace it with a new Performance MX.
Tried both of these MX masters, settled on the G603 instead. The MX Master (2) is so unergonomic, it makes absolutely no sense. It's a bit heavy and tracking really sucks, the sensor is terrible. I thought it would be a great investment since I'm a freelancer and work from coffeeshops all the time, but the G603 is the perfect mouse.
G603 has low weight (with 1 battery), LOOOONG battery life (been using mine for 3 months on 1 battery now) and really good tracking and ergonomics. It's great for working on the go, but also for gaming when I'm in a hotel for example. Hardly makes a difference compared to my wired G502. I'd say their biggest difference is the shape and the lack of the free-scrolling wheel.
Skip this MX disaster and go for the G603 if you want a good wireless mouse for both working and gaming as well as a long battery life.
wish they would make a gaming version of this, gone through 3 G602's in the last 18 months all with the exact same issue right mouse button failing :( it's a real shame because i love the design & the battery life.
Just got a mx master 2s. Never had a problem gaming with these mice, had mx revolution and performance mx, gamed on both. Eventually the clicking mechanism wore out on the mx revo. Still clicked but had no tactile feel. Thumb area coating wore out on the performance mx. Both I would say were about 4 yrs of use.
MX Revolution was still the best IMO, didn't like that you had to dock it to charge though.
Performance MX was ok, hated they got rid of the smart switch scroll wheel but eventually got used to clicking the toggle button all the time.
2S not really digging the tiny fwd/bck buttons, hopefully i'll eventually get used to this as well. If you could click the thumb, that would've been cool. Glad the smart switch is back, but I'm still pressing the toggle lol.
Random Question: Is the Middle mouse button (scroll wheel) easy to press down? I use Blender which uses middle mouse a lot. I have a Logitech M510 now and that make a very loud click with a good amount of resistance so I'm trying to find something that takes less pressure to click the middle mouse button.
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